starts babbling about being forced to stray from straight platonic route to romantic one
HOWEVER! guys, what if there actually will be a difference between routes? What if Red will fcking DIE or go comatose/vegetable if we reject him?
that's like the only think I came up with that would explain this weird turn in MC's mental
I read this vn since round 2 came out and I really like this project. Our mixed feelings come from objectively speaking "bad writing" (I hate this term, I don't agree with its usage in this case, but I couldn't find more fitting word to describe it). MC being forced to love a character is good, it is called a route after all, but if we can choose to specifically NOT romance someone and then out of the blue our protag just develops feelings... it's just not cool man...
Yh i feel yh. I thought i could choose which guy i wanted so i said bruce was hot ig. Turns out it didn't even matter cuz I just ended up loving redline. I like redline but I thought of him as a good friend, nothing more.
Oh and I'm also concerned about the next update since idk how they're gonna solve the conflict between us and Bruce. I mean how is Bruce gonna exactly come back and say "hey sorry for trying to kill u buddy". We were legit making progress and then that happened. Also, I no longer like Bruce anymore. Sorry but I can't exactly forgive him after everything. Granted, we did sort of push his buttons but he also hit us with "you're a shit friend" so I can't exactly feel sorry for him
It makes me laugh so fking much how almost everyone wants him dead or something terrible happen to him, like, can't the story just evolve differently? 😆😆
I don't often feel the need to comment but i do gotta ask: who hurt you so badly for this? i love it i'm sorry but damn like wow i don't think i've been so stunted by an update since TJ's last update so good job but really holy shit.
(and i like readline's semi love plot because it develops their conflicts further so i don't really get the hate, maybe because of the lack of choice? idk i would like to romance bruce too hehe because poly but you do you my guy, tell the story you wanna tell)
As much as I absolutely adore the story and love the concept as a whole, I'm not so much a fan of being forced together with Red, especially after being given the choice to be his friend
T_T [Stares longingly at Bruce] This feels just like real life where I simp over a straight guy who's not even remotely interested
I've been following and enjoying this VN for over a year, but damn, I didn't like this update for one simple reason...
Spoilers
The whole romance between Zander and Redline is so forced, it hurts. I actually think that Red is a great character, with some solid character development and background and I really like our hyena as a friend you know, but there is just no romantic chemistry between him and the protagonist... And that's why I was glad to see that he was only an optional romance in the previous round. However...
The fact that there was a choice earlier where you can pick "Purely friendship, nothing more" about your relationship with Red, yet still Zander will sleep in the same bed as Redline in the next chapter and think about how badly he wants to kiss him, like... And then there's the scene at the "fake" beach, where Zander wants to "tell him that he loves him". At the end of the chapter, no matter what you have said before, Zander still will be in love with him, so what was even the point of giving us the "choice" before... This romance is SO painfully forced, it makes me like Red and the VN overall less, which is a shame, because I really really enjoyed previous updates :/
I think the route would have felt a lot more natural if the romance had been left out. So far, the story has been showing two lonely guys becoming best friends. Turning that into a romance either needs to be done later or set up with alternate paths earlier in the game.
Zander's big character development is discovering how much he needs and loves Redline as a friend. As written his romantic feelings feel like a crush. They're too sudden and weaken the impact of their evening together.
I don't know of any leaks on itch's end, but I don't pay attention to the email addresses of anyone that donates. But that sounds lile something you would need to contact Itch support for.
I like the story, looking forward to knowing what's going to happen next, Bruce is so interesting and hot, but Redline on the other hand... damn he's one of the most annoying characters I've ever seen, and to make matters worse he appears all the time like the game forces him a lot as if he were the cannon romance.
OH, itch.io betrayed me, hahaha! When I wrote the comment that link was to like, what itch.io described as an updating of the files 7h before even though the files still said 5.0 and there was no devlog, so I was confused about that (note how the comment predates the devlog’s release, I swear I’m not insane :P )
Thanks for and congrats on the new update, by the way!
That's strange, not sure why anything would be flagged. Lots of other people have been downloading and playing without issue, so I can assure you there's nothing wrong with it.
Thank you for asking! Most likely not, as I don't expect the project to grow too large. And on my current release schedule, the VN will be done sometime next year, so there wouldn't be much activity after that. Thank you for expressing interest, though!
If not a VN discord server how's about a telegram chat just to talk about the VN? ^^; The reason why I'm asking is mostly because aside from itch I'm not entirely sure where the discourse and enthusiasm for the VN is funneling into. And this VN already has a channel that people just can't exactly comment on. That and it also feels a bit strange that the main places the VN is talked about is in the servers of other VNs... ^^;
This situation is so unbelievable. We have no details on the contract. Zander is just so stupid. More optimal solution would be to seek legal action and cover the story in media, or just purposefully lose those matches. And for weeks he just ignores Redline that clearly have problems. This is so surreal. But despite all that it's still enjoyable.
and i need a permission since Drayden is your character story, can i use him as my profile picture and can i use his name on my nickname ?
he's been my favorite character so far and i simp him with me which idk why i can't get him out of my mind, its okay if you don't want to, and thank you so much
It's only on its fifth build but there's a lot to read I love it. I'm not a writer so I don't know much about good writing but it's really good in my opinion.
RED MY BABY IS SAUR CUTE AUGHHHHH (He's capable of beating the shii out of me), and Drayden too. I like Drayden.
*edit*
Btw, I know that there will be no sexual scene in this vn but there is "romance" in genre list. So I wanna know if there will be romance option or it will be a linear vn?
OK SO DOES THIS GO THRU YOUR FILES TO FIND YOUR NAME OR IS IT PURE COINCIDENCE THAT ZANDERS MESSED UP PROFIL NAME IS ALEX FOR SHORT AND ALEXANDER MASON IN FULL CAUSE IM BAFFLED WITH THE FACT ITS NAME DROPPING ME... anyway now that that's done
Anyway. If I had a nickel for every visual novel I've played that I've dissociated into the character for and had a panic attack because of it I'd have 3 nickels which is much BUT IS WEIRD ITS HAPPEND THRICE TIMES 2 of which were in this one. My heart rate literally jumped in sequence with his and before the fights and during the nightmare like nono no comfy is me.
Anyway long comment huh
Edit: add another nickel... this is such a good story and I'm literally not even that far in can't wait for further
Also backstory is woof alot also I was scream thats a symptom when he said he's dissociates and that he doesn't want to cause problems by sharing his anyway slay
I chose Bruce but I was still able to hold hands with Red so maybe you're not limited to one and can do stuff with both of them perhaps together 🤭. Awesome game.
The writing in this is absolutely amazing. Every time Zander felt down, I was on the verge of tears myself because of that feeling of powerlessness and hopelessness. Great story! 😭
I'm really curious as to how tall each characters are. The only one that we know for a fact is Bruce being 7 feet tall. Obviously we have small indications like Zander being describe as a bit shorter that Redline and also just comparing the characters sprites with each others.
But yeah, anyway great work I'm totally hook on the story, it's really good! Have a nice day man, excited to see more.
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starts babbling about being forced to stray from
straightplatonic route to romantic oneHOWEVER! guys, what if there actually will be a difference between routes? What if Red will fcking DIE or go comatose/vegetable if we reject him?
that's like the only think I came up with that would explain this weird turn in MC's mental
I read this vn since round 2 came out and I really like this project. Our mixed feelings come from objectively speaking "bad writing" (I hate this term, I don't agree with its usage in this case, but I couldn't find more fitting word to describe it). MC being forced to love a character is good, it is called a route after all, but if we can choose to specifically NOT romance someone and then out of the blue our protag just develops feelings... it's just not cool man...
Bruces stan forever and ever :')
*Spoiler alert*
Yh i feel yh. I thought i could choose which guy i wanted so i said bruce was hot ig. Turns out it didn't even matter cuz I just ended up loving redline. I like redline but I thought of him as a good friend, nothing more.
Oh and I'm also concerned about the next update since idk how they're gonna solve the conflict between us and Bruce. I mean how is Bruce gonna exactly come back and say "hey sorry for trying to kill u buddy". We were legit making progress and then that happened. Also, I no longer like Bruce anymore. Sorry but I can't exactly forgive him after everything. Granted, we did sort of push his buttons but he also hit us with "you're a shit friend" so I can't exactly feel sorry for him
It makes me laugh so fking much how almost everyone wants him dead or something terrible happen to him, like, can't the story just evolve differently? 😆😆
There are only two things:
the first one is Bruce and anything else is an obstacle on your way to obtain Bruce =^w^=
sorry Red, it is how it is
I don't often feel the need to comment but i do gotta ask: who hurt you so badly for this? i love it i'm sorry but damn like wow i don't think i've been so stunted by an update since TJ's last update so good job but really holy shit.
(and i like readline's semi love plot because it develops their conflicts further so i don't really get the hate, maybe because of the lack of choice? idk i would like to romance bruce too hehe because poly but you do you my guy, tell the story you wanna tell)
As much as I absolutely adore the story and love the concept as a whole, I'm not so much a fan of being forced together with Red, especially after being given the choice to be his friend
T_T [Stares longingly at Bruce] This feels just like real life where I simp over a straight guy who's not even remotely interested
I'd let him choke me fr
Couldn't agree more~ 😌 I wasn't even angry about that
dude same, imagine a CG in round 8 with Bruce doing CPR on Zan <3
I hadn't thought of that till now 😳 I was honestly just glad he paid me ANY amount of attention, even if that meant being choked out 😆
Same, not sure why you are given a choice in the story to then be forced with red. I didnt get any romance from them and then a sudden switch
It's kinda detracted from the whole emotional impact of Round 7 for me 😐
Honestly, if there was no choice and Red was the only route, I would have been more comfortable with it, but given the choice, it made me sour 😅😢
Its also personal opinion as well, bigger the better. Bruce, Bucky, even Cole.
I'm the same 😆 I'd love a Bucky route
Tears were shed
Omg i hadn't read some heavy shi like this since ever man thanks for this, really
I've been following and enjoying this VN for over a year, but damn, I didn't like this update for one simple reason...
Spoilers
The whole romance between Zander and Redline is so forced, it hurts. I actually think that Red is a great character, with some solid character development and background and I really like our hyena as a friend you know, but there is just no romantic chemistry between him and the protagonist... And that's why I was glad to see that he was only an optional romance in the previous round. However...
The fact that there was a choice earlier where you can pick "Purely friendship, nothing more" about your relationship with Red, yet still Zander will sleep in the same bed as Redline in the next chapter and think about how badly he wants to kiss him, like... And then there's the scene at the "fake" beach, where Zander wants to "tell him that he loves him". At the end of the chapter, no matter what you have said before, Zander still will be in love with him, so what was even the point of giving us the "choice" before... This romance is SO painfully forced, it makes me like Red and the VN overall less, which is a shame, because I really really enjoyed previous updates :/
Ehhh
Same.
I think the route would have felt a lot more natural if the romance had been left out. So far, the story has been showing two lonely guys becoming best friends. Turning that into a romance either needs to be done later or set up with alternate paths earlier in the game.
Zander's big character development is discovering how much he needs and loves Redline as a friend. As written his romantic feelings feel like a crush. They're too sudden and weaken the impact of their evening together.
Love the new speech... box(?), by the by
spoilers sorta
Ah NO! You can't do that to my favorite!
It's been a great read so far, but I must throw myself at the mercy of the author, please don't break my flamboyant heart like this!
Aaah.... Glad to know a fellow sufferer of the cliffhanger jitters. Me too...
Well that certainly escalated, I'm shook at the last part of the VN
: Edited for spoilersI want to FUCK that hyena.
If anyone wants Theta_dog on twitch is playing Undefeated Live. he streams everyday at 10pm EST.
Sorry I posted it here, since there isn't a discord
I kinda ducked up lol. I used my real email to to make a donation and I don't wanna risk it getting leaked. How would I go about this?
I don't know of any leaks on itch's end, but I don't pay attention to the email addresses of anyone that donates. But that sounds lile something you would need to contact Itch support for.
Alright thanks. Have a great rest of your day/night.
As cute as Redline is... Please tell me there will be a Bruce route? 😢
FRRR WE NEED ONE THIS INSTANTTT
I like the story, looking forward to knowing what's going to happen next, Bruce is so interesting and hot, but Redline on the other hand... damn he's one of the most annoying characters I've ever seen, and to make matters worse he appears all the time like the game forces him a lot as if he were the cannon romance.
Do you think Brucie is a good pet name? Hmm I wonder if he'd knock out Zander if he dared..
I believe Redlines the cannon romance for this VN (And I do love Redline) But these updates really be making me want a Bruce route.
Same
I hope that we can get both of them.
BRUCENATION RISE UP
Hoping for more wholesome cuteness from Redline.
Hell yeah! I think this is far most the best chapter i have ever read
Hi! I finished the last built and it's really awesome, but I wanted to know, Redline is the only love interest in this vn?
Idk that smirk on bruce when you had him pinned is sus
Exactly, if Zander has a chance to date Bruce, I would do it :P
This latest build was awesome though I'm quite nervous on what the hell is gonna happen next
just some curiosity, but what’s this?
A devlog, it just goes over some thoughts regarding the update.
OH, itch.io betrayed me, hahaha! When I wrote the comment that link was to like, what itch.io described as an updating of the files 7h before even though the files still said 5.0 and there was no devlog, so I was confused about that (note how the comment predates the devlog’s release, I swear I’m not insane :P )
Thanks for and congrats on the new update, by the way!
Oooh I didn't know it updated people when I add the files, even if I hide them...very good knowledge. Thank you!
Hey, so my pc detected that the round 6 update was a Trojan virus called "wacatac." Not to sound accusatory, but what's up with that???
That's strange, not sure why anything would be flagged. Lots of other people have been downloading and playing without issue, so I can assure you there's nothing wrong with it.
Oh alright then. Thanks for responding. 👍
Redline is SO owed a dozen or so apologies from Zander
soooooo true
Will this VN ever have a community discord?
Thank you for asking! Most likely not, as I don't expect the project to grow too large. And on my current release schedule, the VN will be done sometime next year, so there wouldn't be much activity after that. Thank you for expressing interest, though!
If not a VN discord server how's about a telegram chat just to talk about the VN? ^^;
The reason why I'm asking is mostly because aside from itch I'm not entirely sure where the discourse and enthusiasm for the VN is funneling into. And this VN already has a channel that people just can't exactly comment on. That and it also feels a bit strange that the main places the VN is talked about is in the servers of other VNs... ^^;
Just had to come here and say I love Redline so much. He is my favorite yeen and i will protect him at all costs
This situation is so unbelievable. We have no details on the contract. Zander is just so stupid. More optimal solution would be to seek legal action and cover the story in media, or just purposefully lose those matches. And for weeks he just ignores Redline that clearly have problems. This is so surreal. But despite all that it's still enjoyable.
FRRR my first reaction to that was dude get a lawyer
Hey may i know Drayden full names ?
and i need a permission since Drayden is your character story, can i use him as my profile picture and can i use his name on my nickname ?
he's been my favorite character so far and i simp him with me which idk why i can't get him out of my mind, its okay if you don't want to, and thank you so much
I don't know what type of dinosaur Bruce is supposed to be but... I may want him to do stuff to me...
not the things he's done to zander so far but...
It's only on its fifth build but there's a lot to read I love it. I'm not a writer so I don't know much about good writing but it's really good in my opinion.
RED MY BABY IS SAUR CUTE AUGHHHHH (He's capable of beating the shii out of me), and Drayden too. I like Drayden.
*edit*
Btw, I know that there will be no sexual scene in this vn but there is "romance" in genre list. So I wanna know if there will be romance option or it will be a linear vn?
Redline is such a cutie patootie😭😭😭
I understand the circumstances but it'll be hard for me to forgive Zander for being such a dick to my precious boy
Сan't wait for the update, especially the one where Zander and Redline will have a heart-to-heart conversation(hopefully)
Could his behavior to Redline be a result of a bad reaction to cuteness overload?
I hope so, otherwise there is no excuse for him
Backups don't work Can't save
The writing of this is so good. Really excited for the next update. Definitely one of the best visual novels I have ever played.
OK SO DOES THIS GO THRU YOUR FILES TO FIND YOUR NAME OR IS IT PURE COINCIDENCE THAT ZANDERS MESSED UP PROFIL NAME IS ALEX FOR SHORT AND ALEXANDER MASON IN FULL CAUSE IM BAFFLED WITH THE FACT ITS NAME DROPPING ME... anyway now that that's done
Anyway. If I had a nickel for every visual novel I've played that I've dissociated into the character for and had a panic attack because of it I'd have 3 nickels which is much BUT IS WEIRD ITS HAPPEND THRICE TIMES 2 of which were in this one. My heart rate literally jumped in sequence with his and before the fights and during the nightmare like nono no comfy is me.
Anyway long comment huh
Edit: add another nickel... this is such a good story and I'm literally not even that far in can't wait for further
Also backstory is woof alot also I was scream thats a symptom when he said he's dissociates and that he doesn't want to cause problems by sharing his anyway slay
I have finished the new chapter in about an hour and it's so cool! Now the story is going to be interesting instead of reading a depressing situation
Poor zander hes the main character but has no plot armor😭
Bruce or Redline?
Agh Leo! Why do you got to make me question my taste in men!? 😂😂😂 (I'm joking)
Redline has astronomically high cuteness levels, and thus is the ideal choice :) .
I chose Bruce but I was still able to hold hands with Red so maybe you're not limited to one and can do stuff with both of them perhaps together 🤭. Awesome game.
Is there an update?
Next month i suppose
I'm planning for a July release on the next build
Awesome!
This game is playing Ping-Pong with how much my opinion of Bruce is changing.
The writing in this is absolutely amazing. Every time Zander felt down, I was on the verge of tears myself because of that feeling of powerlessness and hopelessness. Great story! 😭
I'm really curious as to how tall each characters are. The only one that we know for a fact is Bruce being 7 feet tall. Obviously we have small indications like Zander being describe as a bit shorter that Redline and also just comparing the characters sprites with each others.
But yeah, anyway great work I'm totally hook on the story, it's really good! Have a nice day man, excited to see more.
Ah yes! The sprites should be to scale, but here's what I have written down. Horns and ears are not accounted for in heights.
Bruce - 7'
Bucky - 6'2"
Drayden - 5'10"
Redline - 5'8"
Zander - 5'6"
And thank you very much! <3